Qualcomm senior vice president Chris Patrick said custom CPU cores “doesn’t necessarily mean more expensive,” but allows Qualcomm to find a different balance between pricing, power consumption and performance. However, it is noted that he also admitted that the cost of Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 may increase because Qualcomm wants to pursue “amazing performance levels.”

If Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 is really more expensive than Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, it may lead to an increase in the price of flagship phones in 2025, such as the Samsung Galaxy S25 series, Xiaomi 15 series, and so on.

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According to foreign technology media SemiAccurate report, in terms of performance, self-developed processor “Oryon” is better than Apple’s M2, but not as good as the M3 chip, but there are a lot of challenges in power consumption.

Qualcomm wants to use its own PMIC in the “Oryon” processor, which is smartphone-oriented and not capable of laptop tasks, and uses a proprietary power management protocol that has raised concerns among major PC partners.

Note: PMIC Chinese name for power management integrated circuits, mainly characterized by high integration, will embrace the traditional multi-output power packaged in a chip, so that the multi-power application scenarios higher efficiency, smaller volume.

The media reported that Qualcomm’s “Oryon” processor uses a proprietary power management protocol, so the system on a chip (SoC) needs to use a unique PMIC, which forces PC notebook manufacturers to buy Oryon processor in addition to purchasing these PMICs.

PC makers are usually free to purchase PMICs, but Qualcomm wanted to bundle them, and the PMICs are smartphone-oriented and may not be able to handle and perform PC scenario tasks.

The best solution in front of Qualcomm is to optimize the PMIC, but that means PC makers are being held hostage by Qualcomm to pay the high cost of fixes. It still requires multiple PMICs to handle PC-class SoCs and printed circuit boards (PCBs) with 0.6mm pitch HDI.

Reports indicate that several major PC vendors have asked Qualcomm to halt the Oryon program because of the PMICs.

Sources say Qualcomm has offered financial compensation to OEMs to offset the cost impact of using the Oryon chipset and mandatory PMICs for Windows laptops.

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According to foreign technology media SemiAccurate report, in terms of performance, self-developed processor “Oryon” is better than Apple’s M2, but not as good as the M3 chip.

Qualcomm Oryon chip is mainly oriented to the notebook, although the performance is basically up to expectations, but there are challenges in the tuning of Nuvia core and Qualcomm uncore (is essential to the performance of the processor to play and maintain the role of the components), resulting in high power consumption, and power management has a lot of room for improvement.

The main reason for the high power consumption of the Qualcomm Oryon chip is that it uses a server core rather than a consumer core, and in terms of power management, there is a big gap compared to the Apple Monaco, so it is difficult to compete with Apple in the high-end notebook market.

It was previously reported, that Qualcomm Oryon chip will have 3 versions, including the high-end version has 12 cores, including 8 performance cores and 4 energy-efficient cores.

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Qualcomm and Microsoft are both actively promoting the 64-bit process, with the current Windows on ARM project advocating for developers to develop 64-bit applications, but still retaining support for 32-bit instruction sets and applications.

Microsoft has confirmed that the next generation of Windows (which should be called Win12) and future Qualcomm chips will drop support for Arm32 applications.

This will primarily affect older apps compiled for Windows 10 Mobile and not yet updated for Arm64 or x86 architectures, and theoretically most users will not be affected. After upgrading to a new system or device, if these apps are not updated, then they will not be available.

Qualcomm plans to launch the Oryon processor in 2024 and previously reported that Qualcomm will use its own architecture Nuvia in the SM8750 (Snapdragon 8 Gen 4) at the earliest, and the ARM dual-version cluster is 2+6 due to tightening ARM licensing.

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According to reports, Qualcomm is currently testing two models of this processor: SC8380X and SC8380XP. As can be seen from the code name, this processor will be the successor of the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 (SC8280). In addition, this processor will support LPDDR5X memory and UFS 4.0 storage and integrate the Snapdragon X65 5G modem.

Qualcomm’s latest PC processor, the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3, uses four Cortex-X1 cores and four Cortex-A78 cores and is currently installed in notebook products such as Lenovo ThinkPad X13s.

Qualcomm has said that the new Oryon chip is scheduled to provide samples to OEMs in the second half of this year and will be officially commercialized in 2024.

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Qualcomm acquired Santa Clara-based Nuvia back in January 2021 for $1.4 billion, and Nuvia’s founder, a former chief architect at Apple who oversaw CPU designs from A7 to A14, is working on a custom Arm architecture that Qualcomm needs to compete with Apple, particularly in the area of laptop computing.

Qualcomm’s current CPU cores are based on Arm’s public version architecture, such as the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 with four Cortex-X1 cores and four Cortex-A78 cores, and the new Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 with a powerful Cortex-X3 core.

Custom chips allow Qualcomm to own the entire stack and no longer rely on Arm to launch its designs. This means it can operate not only like Apple but also like Intel and AMD.

The new Qualcomm Oryon based chip is scheduled to be available for sampling to OEMs in the second half of this year and will be commercially available in 2024.

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