It is noticed that Qualcomm’s highest-end mobile processor is the second-generation Snapdragon 8 (SM8550), which will be released at the 2022 Snapdragon Summit on November 16, 2022, and uses a new 1+4+3 octa-core architecture, including an ultra-large core Kryo Prime core (based on Cortex-X3) running at 3.2GHz to provide high single-thread performance. There are also four performance cores running at 2.8GHz for better handling of multi-threaded workloads. Finally, there are three efficiency cores clocked at 2.0GHz.

According to @Digital chat station previously revealed that Qualcomm’s third-generation Snapdragon 8 mobile platform will adopt a new “1+5+2” core configuration scheme, the super-large core is Cortex-X4, and it is expected that the running score of the AnTuTu platform will exceed 1.6 million points. It is reported that the chip is expected to be released by the end of 2023. According to this schedule, the fourth-generation Snapdragon 8 processor should be released in 2024.

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According to a new report from The Information, Google, Microsoft, and Intel were also considering acquiring Nuvia, with Qualcomm eventually picking up the chip talent.

Nuvia was founded by former Google and Apple employees, including the “chief architect” who was most recently responsible for Apple’s M1. According to a person familiar with the matter, Nuvia eventually became the target of acquisitions by Google, Microsoft, Intel and Qualcomm, all of which were considering acquiring the company.

In addition, reports say Apple was so upset about chip employees being poached by Nuvia that it sued the company’s executives in August 2019. And Reuters reports that Apple denied the suit. People familiar with the company say the lawsuit inadvertently elevated Nuvia’s standing, signaling to venture capitalists and potential employees that it is a solid semiconductor startup.

Nuvia was unveiled as a Qualcomm Oryon CPU along with Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 back in November 2022. The CPU will be available first on PCs, and then on “smartphones, digital cockpits, advanced driver assistance systems, extended reality and infrastructure networking solutions”. The “new custom CPU core” is said to “unleash new levels of performance” in 2023, with more details provided.

It’s worth noting that according to Qualcomm’s countersuit against Arm, external GPUs, NPUs or ISPs will no longer be allowed in SOCs based on Arm’s public CPUs after 2024. if Qualcomm can’t resolve this issue, their Snapdragon and Nuvia chips are likely to be deeply affected.

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The 12-core CPU configuration will be divided into performance and power-efficient cores, but oddly enough, information claims Qualcomm is developing a “desktop” chip.

The first chip is based on the Nuvia Phoenix design, codenamed “Hamoa”. Qualcomm already makes SoCs like the Snapdragon 8cx 3rd generation for thin and light Windows laptops, so we’re not sure why Kuba Wojciechowski tweeted below that this chip is a desktop model. Perhaps Qualcomm’s first Nuvia chip could be used in both types of machines, similar to what Apple did with its M1, as it was incorporated first into the MacBook and then the iMac.

The chip, called ‘Hamoa,’ appears to have a similar memory and cache configuration to Apple’s M1 and support for a dedicated GPU. Assuming the first Nuvia chip family under the Snapdragon brand appears in notebooks, these portable computers may be able to connect to an external GPU chassis using the Thunderbolt interface, which Apple in its MacBook line which Apple no longer allows in its MacBook series.

Wojciechowski’s sources tell him that the performance of this Nuvia SoC is “very promising,” but don’t have some convincing numbers to prove it.

There’s a lot of information we can’t get right now. For example, which manufacturing process Qualcomm intends to use is a metric that will affect battery life and will continue to be a solid basis for customers to actually abandon plans to buy a tested x86-powered notebook and spend money on something else. Also, “extremely promising” are two subjective words that could mean progress in other areas entirely, especially how much of a performance improvement this Nuvia chip could be compared to Snapdragon 8cx 3rd generation or Apple’s M1?

There’s a lot of information we can’t get right now. For example, which manufacturing process Qualcomm intends to use is a metric that will affect battery life and will continue to be a solid basis for customers to actually abandon plans to buy a tested x86-powered notebook and spend money on something else. Also, “extremely promising” are two subjective words that could mean progress in other areas entirely, especially how much of a performance improvement this Nuvia chip could be compared to Snapdragon 8cx 3rd generation or Apple’s M1? We’ll get answers to all these questions and more in the coming months.

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