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Sam Altman: OpenAI Training GPT-5 Not Bad for Money, Humans Close to AGI Threshold

[Introduction to New Intelligence] Some time ago, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and CTO Mira Murati discussed AGI, the future development of GPT, and the impact of AI on humanity in an exclusive interview with WSJ.

“Why is OpenAI’s ultimate goal AGI? What is AGI?”

“What are ChatGPT and other language models used for?”

“How will the relationship between humans and artificial intelligence change in the future?”

At the 2023 Wall Street Journal (WSJ) technology press conference, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and CTO Mira Murati discussed artificial general intelligence (AGI), the development of future GPT models, and the impact of artificial intelligence on humans Impact.

Nine years ago, Sam Altman said at a Wall Street Journal conference that artificial intelligence causing human unemployment was something that would not happen for a long time and that we did not need to worry too much about.

Less than a decade later, Altman and the company he co-founded, OpenAI, released an artificially intelligent chatbot called ChatGPT.

It can write emails, business plans, and even code that would have been unimaginable nine years ago.

When discussing the current impact and impact of artificial intelligence on human society, Altman remains optimistic, but more cautious than nine years ago.

OpenAI’s ultimate goal: AGI

AGI, this concept has been endowed with infinite beautiful imagination by people since its birth.

The same goes for Altman, who believes that AGI will be the most outstanding creation ever created by mankind.

Armed with this great tool, humans are able to solve the world’s problems today and create unimaginable new things for ourselves, each other, and the world.

At that time, humans will have more creative means of self-expression. But Altman is certain that these changes will bring huge benefits to humanity.

“In nine years, when the Wall Street Journal invites me, you may ask: Why do we think humans don’t want AGI to arrive?”

So when will AGI appear? And how can people tell when AGI is coming?

Altman defines AGI as something we don’t have yet. Ten years ago, people might have thought that something like GPT-4 or GPT-5 was AGI.

But now, GPT-4 is just seen as a pretty good “little chatbot”.

People’s benchmark threshold requirements for AGI are getting higher and higher, which requires people to put more and more efforts into artificial intelligence.

Altman said, “Humans are now close enough to the threshold of AGI that improving the ability of AI becomes less important. The problem we currently face is how to define AGI.”
GPT-5: Solve “illusion” and data copyright issues

OpenAI has released multiple versions of GPT since its inception, each version more powerful than the last.

In March this year, OpenAI released its latest model-GPT-4. But people are still full of expectations about OpenAI’s next model: Is GPT-5 under development?

Faced with this problem, Mira Murati, CTO of OpenAI, responded, “We are not there yet.”

But she also said that OpenAI is always working on the next thing, like reducing model hallucinations: A future release of GPT-5 will work on solving the hallucination problem that now plagues models.

Mira said that although GPT-4 has made great progress on the hallucination problem, it is still some way away from completely solving the hallucination problem.

But OpenAI has been on the right track to solve the problem: reinforcement learning with human feedback (RLHF), allowing the model to output truly reliable content.

In addition, OpenAI also reduces the problem of model illusion by integrating multiple technologies, such as adding inspection and search capabilities to the model, and providing more factual data to the model to ensure that users can obtain more factual output from the model.

But for OpenAI, copyright has always been a controversy.

Not only the data used to train the model, but also the content generated by the model often involves copyright protection issues.

Many publishers and writers have protested against OpenAI’s infringement.

Altman discussed data usage and data ownership issues from another perspective.

In the future, OpenAI’s new model will become infrastructure that everyone can use, which means the way you think about data ownership and economic flows will change.

Now, OpenAI is working to establish partnerships with different data rights holders, but as models become more intelligent and capable, less and less data will be needed to train models in the future.

But current models still require as much data as possible produced by humans when training. However, Altman said that this will not be the long-term future development path of the model, because what really matters in the future is valuable data.

As OpenAI advances technologically, the conversation around data and ownership will shift.
The future of humans and AI

The first is the relationship between humans and AI.

On September 25, OpenAI added more personalization features to GPT-4. ChatGPT can now see, listen, and speak.

The newly added voice function of GPT-4 is quite user-friendly, and communication with people is very natural.

It is foreseeable that ubiquitous AI will soon become a reality of human life.

In the future, we cannot avoid interacting with artificial intelligence, and this brings up a question: how humans should treat their relationship with artificial intelligence.

And OpenAI and other companies that train the models have some control over the artificial intelligence that forms relationships with people.

This will be an unsettling future in which these artificial intelligences may become friends and even companions of humans.

But Altman made it clear that he doesn’t want people to develop a close relationship with artificial intelligence that goes beyond human friends: Artificial intelligence is different from humans. Maybe these systems are full of personality, but this has nothing to do with human nature.

Therefore, when communicating with artificial intelligence, you need to be different from communicating with humans.

“The reason why we named the model ChatGPT instead of a person’s name is to make it clear to users that they are communicating with an artificial intelligence, not a real human being.” Altman emphasized this point.

But just as people have many different relationships, people will also develop special relationships with artificial intelligence. But eventually, people will realize that artificial intelligence is different from humans, but our relationship with it will not be broken because of it.

On the other hand, the rapid development of AI also makes people worry about the uncontrollable risks it brings: the use of these systems to commit crimes and the impact on the job market.

Such as commanding AI to invade computer systems or design biological and chemical weapons.

This is not an unreachable future. Since the outbreak of generative AI, the use of AI to conduct fraud and cyberattacks has become commonplace.

But Altman believes that these negative impacts are inevitable as technology develops.

What we need to solve is the risks brought by technology, rather than giving up on development. The latter remains a moral failure for humanity.

In human history, almost every technological revolution will profoundly affect the job market, either completely subverting it or half of the jobs will disappear.

But in fact, when old jobs disappear, new ones are created. This is a testament to human progress, the question is how quickly our society adapts to change.

Within two or at most three generations, humans can adapt to almost any degree of job market change.

There may be people who are unwilling or unwilling to change their jobs, but the nature of their jobs will change.

For a primitive hunter-gatherer tribe, typing in front of a computer couldn’t be a real job.

“Work is just humans trying to entertain themselves with some stupid status game,” Altman said.

The real challenge is dealing with the transition to job market innovation.

Society needs to take action to ensure that people are not harmed in this transition. It is not enough to provide a universal basic income. People need to have the initiative and influence to participate in building the future.

This is why OpenAI is so determined to promote ChatGPT.

Although not everyone can use artificial intelligence technology, as more and more people participate, people will have the opportunity to think about and chart the direction of future development.

This is the most important thing we should pay attention to.

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